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Post by JPtheProfessor on Jan 27, 2006 19:40:02 GMT -5
And I could have gone along and witnessed all this fun!
Your anger is justified, Vic and HF1. There are a lot of responsible club owners out there, but there are always a few bad apples in every bunch. Any 'Toona oldtimers remember Cisco's? Same deal used to happen there, only the owner screwed over national acts too!
You live and you learn.
On one hand, I'm glad I didn't go along and have to witness the BS firsthand. But then on the other hand, had I gone and witnessed it, I could have commented about the situation in Pennsylvania Musician. But as already stated, this owner probably applies these same practices to other aspects of his business dealings, and places like that usually are out of business soon. It catches up with them.
To newcomers like the guest earlier, I have nothing but good things to say about Hair Force One; they not only put on a great show, but are quality folks off the stage, and help out in benefits and other events as well.
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Post by Starr on Jan 27, 2006 21:13:58 GMT -5
Thanks for your input JP. Always interesting to hear what you have to say and it's positive
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Post by Jacklyn Miauff on Jan 30, 2006 1:10:34 GMT -5
Thanks JP! The show was an absolute blast. We always have fun with the Beggars. Wish you could have heard them.
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Post by Victor Synn on Jan 30, 2006 14:43:48 GMT -5
Hey JP. Thanks for the kind words. I know you've been around the scene for a long time and have probably seen this type of thing happen to other bands in the past. Just have no idea why club owners act the way they do sometimes. We appreciate your support very much and we thank you for coming to see us and cover our shows.
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Post by Iva Biggin on Feb 2, 2006 9:33:14 GMT -5
Thanks for your reply, JP all you can do is keep going, For as long we have been doing this to let one goof piss us off isnt like us but, he knows he messed up, what everyone agreed on was that you keep screwing bands over he isnt going to last very long.... Til next time take care!!
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Post by Phillip DaPussee on Feb 5, 2006 14:16:03 GMT -5
There are a lot of responsible club owners out there, but there are always a few bad apples in every bunch. It's kinda funny that this thing happened at "Shit-heads", er, uh, I mean "Goodfellas", and then right on it's heels the deal at Fat Freddie's. A phone call would've been nice, Fred, but I guess it was a bit much to ask. Shit like this makes the most even tempered and seasoned local musicians wary of club owners. I know that you guys, as owners and managers, are very familiar with each others business practices and talk and take notes amongst each other, so when we, as musicians, are a little untrusting of verbal agreements, just remember some of the crap that we get. Don't make promises that you can't or won't keep: and maintain open lines of communication with the bands and/or booking agents. I hope you are aware of who's who when it comes to which clubs have a history of fucking over bands. So don't take it personally when we have an "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude. Police your own ranks!! It's your responsibility to chastise the "bad apples" in your business. We don't want to stereotype you anymore than we would want you to do the same to us. Just, please know, that these recent events are sticking in my throat!! In addition, I would like to give kudos to the good guys. We want you to know that you are appreciated for doing the right things. I don't usually post personal remarks on this site, so this should be a reminder of how strongly I feel about this subject. I'm pissed and disappointed at these events. I love this band and this job. Making music is one of the few refuges there is for most of us. Please don't break my spirit. . . Thanks for listening
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Post by Victor Synn on Feb 6, 2006 10:13:42 GMT -5
Just, please know, that these recent events are sticking in my throat!! That's not the only thing sticking in your throat.... ;D
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Post by Iva Biggin on Feb 6, 2006 17:24:15 GMT -5
Ya suck one little dick and your a cocksucker the rest of your life, just doesn' sound fair!! BUT your right PHIL, If you do well for a club, in not so many words, they should scratch the entertainments back also, We do this cause we like to play and we also do it for the people that come out and see us, Cause we are nothing without them, again there are always a few bad apples in the barrel, But screw it , Lets make a pie
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Post by Guest IV on Feb 17, 2006 10:24:00 GMT -5
I know three of these guys really well, and I can tell you that they will be there for you no matter what
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Post by Phillip DaPussee on Feb 18, 2006 0:11:15 GMT -5
Hey IV. Who is it that you know?
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Post by Iva Biggin on Feb 24, 2006 0:22:48 GMT -5
As Shultz would say on Hogans Heros, I NO NOTHING,NOTHING.....
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Post by Guest IV on Mar 6, 2006 15:51:06 GMT -5
I know Phil, Hugh, and Iva
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